Comments on: I made my “ga-DUNG!” face

By: johnRozplochowski

johnRozplochowski — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:24:39 +0000

Fair and balanced?! fox is about as fair and balanced as a fight between a grizzly bear and an infant. They CONSTANTLY and openly call liberals words like “unamerican”, “pinheads”, domestic terrorists”, ect, then immediately turn around and call themselves fair. It is a travesty, a lie, and should be considered a crime. They are a propaganda machine no better than… wait, THEY ARE NAZI GERMANYS PROPAGANDA MACHINE! Im liberal, does that make me a terrorist or unamerican?, according to fox it does. This channel should be stripped of its license immediately. And furthermore, we need to start by jailing, Mr. Oreilly, who in my eyes is a terrorists to the freedoms of america, looking to force his neo-christian hardcore conservative beliefs onto the masses by portraying himself as a newscaster while speaking 100% negatively towards any and all liberals as if they were evil or stupid. This man is a sinner, a propaganda spreader, a fascist, and i hope he suffers a quick demise at the hands of the authorities. This year will be the year of the democrats, we will come together, and we will get this crumbling and frankly disgusting version of what the U.S.A has become back together. Free healthcare, greener world, jobs back to america, taxation of the rich and better and cheaper education for the poor. Its gonna be great and yes fox is against all these things. That is because fox is for the rich man, the republican view is “why should i pay for that persons ____? it is an ungodly, greedy and selfish view, all while hiding behind a vail of religion they dont acually follow.

By: Prose Before Hos

Prose Before Hos — Tue, 29 May 2007 19:25:57 +0000

Democratz seyz: I want my baby back ribs (bbq iraq sauce)…

If you get erections from political sellouts, this week was your week to shine (with hard-ons). No sooner did the Democrats get control of the House and Senate on the anti-War, anti-Bush platform did they cave in to have their pockets lined with delic…

By: mickeye

mickeye — Wed, 09 May 2007 16:21:09 +0000

Imus screwed up , and most people said “wait a minute this is bigger than Imus, what about all the other offenders?”
And so we move on to the root of the problem and stop crying about Imus.
And you proove my point that we are victims of our own concepts and assumptions and bias.
I.m a 50 year old man , and you thought but you didn’t know.Which seems to be the big problem here. Alot of thought and no knowledge { I’m refering to the masses }

By: Gawain

Gawain — Wed, 09 May 2007 13:20:25 +0000

Bully for you. I don’t know what nine-tenths of that had to do with anything I said, but you go, girl.

By: mickeye

mickeye — Wed, 09 May 2007 06:02:46 +0000

HERES THE DEAL…
I watch all these shmucks , on all the channels. And when I do I know what to expect. I take all the info and put it through a seive , all opinions ,slants ,interpetations , everything gets sorted relevant to the stations history.I know that O’reilly wiil interpet from the right ,Lou Dobbs the left. What I’m doing is actually weighing the scales themselves ,not just whats on them. I acheive balance by taking all characteristics in to account.And I never judge or come to conclusions untill I have every bit of info possible.This allows me to understand and not get half as upset as some.
I am well aware of where I stand in the eyes of the media.
And no matter how many times they pull this shit I have no right to bitch if I dont try to do something.
Charlie Brown should stop playing football and report her to the principal ,or kick her instead of the ball.
I just think its really hipocritical to nail fox when there are so many networks that will tell any democrate or republican anything they want to hear,and seeing as how the mainstream media is mostly left you would think republicans would be going gadung till there heads fall off.The demand for fairness should be fair.
So if all you have is a pattern to assume by either dont play or kick lucy.But if you keep going back , you deserve it.
Fuck it ! Send them both to rehab.
Bye , the pressure’s been all mine.
Aloha, and dont watch
too much T.V.
I do.
{ P.S men shouldn’t kick women }

By: Gawain

Gawain — Wed, 09 May 2007 03:38:49 +0000

…and yet you keep posting.
Nah, just kidding, never could pass up a good opportunity for a cheap shot. For the most part it has been a pleasant, uncommonly civil discussion for the Internet, and I’m sorry if you feel I’ve been chopping you up.

Most of our disconnect seems to stem from the fact that you think I’m sitting around complaining and bitching and moaning yet am unwilling to do anything about it. Not at all. I’m looking at an example of something that looks very suspect, and saying “yeah, that looks very suspect.” This isn’t a personal axe to grind, I don’t go around on blogs and web sites slamming Fox, or CNN, or Bush, or Gore, or any of them. I’m not that politically interested (though I do hold some opinions on the matter, to be sure). This was brought to my attention and I am commenting on it. You may be fed up and looking to change the world, but my interest and opinion on this is really very small and simple, so I’ll try to restate it more clearly while addressing your points.

You keep demanding proof and evidence, but exactly what kind of proof are you imagining will emerge, absent a sudden emergence of a human telepath gene? This isn’t a case like Rather’s, where facts can be researched and proven or disproven, nor is there any eye-witness testimony to uncover (assuming that those responsible are going to claim innocence regardless). We’re talking about establishing intent, and unless they were stupid enough to document and direct these alleged slip-ups in internal memos which might be leaked, all we have to go on are prior patterns of behaviour. And that’s obviously going to be a matter of personal consideration to some extent, but I still think it’s a perfectly valid method of determining motives and methods over a period of time.

Again, I give you my example of the guy whacking you in the head. Each time he apologizes, and there is no way you can prove he did it deliberately. But according to you (and I don’t believe I’m misrepresenting your side here), in the absence of any hard evidence to the contrary, you are obligated to assume he is telling the truth every time it happens. Never mind that he has a well-known disrespect for you, never mind that he doesn’t seem to do it to anyone else, which might indicate that he’s simply that careless and clumsy after all. You have no proof of malice, therefore you must assume incompetence no matter how often it happens.

I said at the very beginning that this particular instance of seeming impropriety could be attributed to either malice or incompetence. I still stand by that. However, my personal opinion, which is informed (and I use the word loosely) by the numerous similar faux pas in the past and their admitted pro-Bush/Republican stance, is that it is more likely the former. But I also said before that I’d be interested to hear about examples of Fox News making similar gaffes that are unflattering to Republicans, and if the balance seems to be reasonably even, I will alter my opinion. I did try searching on the web for such a list, but either it isn’t out there or it’s buried in the inevitable dross that those particular keywords pull up. If anyone out there can point me towards something along those lines I’d be obliged.

So yeah, here’s all I’m getting at, in a nutshell (so to speak):
1. They do have a documented history of this sort of stuff,
2. As far as I can determine it only or mostly happens in such a way as to paint Democrats poorly, and
3. How many times does Lucy have to pull the football away before Charlie Brown can reasonably and fairly decide she’s a bitch?

(God, is anyone still reading this? I’m boring myself at this point.)

By: mickeye

mickeye — Wed, 09 May 2007 01:21:25 +0000

bad behavior does not justify more bad behavior

By: mickeye

mickeye — Wed, 09 May 2007 00:51:52 +0000

was either stupid or maliceous. And to compound that point ,I havn’t heard a thing anywhere else about this,from Obama or anyone except a couple blogs.
Being accused of not having proof when there is no proof that lack of proof was the crime ,pot calling the kettle black ?

By: mickeye

mickeye — Wed, 09 May 2007 00:46:16 +0000

It is taken into account.You can chop me up all you want, the fact of the matter is previous offenses should be taken into account,and each time you get caught the penalty gets worse.But ! first you have to have evidence.If you have proof, take it to the streets, take it to congress,the FCCA,at least write the network and voice your displeasure.
You can complain about anything all you want,each and every time it happens if you want.Sooner or later you’ll realize that it is pointless unless your willing to do something about it.
People in America have been shorted and discriminated against and lied to over the last couple hundred years on number of issues.And there were those who thougt it was hopeless and those who do whatever it takes. It doesn’t matter if it’s fairness in media or human rights.There were people willing to die for a free press and freedom of speech.And in todays world accuracy in media is far more important than ever before. So you would would think more people would want to do something about it rather than sit around and cherish they’re right to bitch about it. If something bothers someone enough ,any “normal” person would do something about it.If the people don’t say anything , neither will the sponsors.DJs have been taken of the air for periods of time called penalty’s. Why shouldn’t this apply to TV personality’s and newscasts? You can call it a revolution or whatever.But I’m not even going to complain about the complainers. I’m going to “try” and do something about it.And if I fail,I will have more right than most to bitch about it all day long.
The worst part about all this is that its been going back and forth for a couple days now and nobody has produced a shred of proof that FOX

By: Gawain

Gawain — Tue, 08 May 2007 14:58:45 +0000

Yeah, I’ll start the revolution tomorrow. I mean, I applaud the sentiment, but I’m still waiting to hear the game plan. I already don’t watch any of the channels in question, so I’m open to ideas (and keep in mind I don’t live in the U.S.).

In the meantime, the hypothetical you give is a pretty poor analogy. We’re not talking about the legal system, and in the example you give it is easy to administer tests and obtain hard evidence. If we could do that here we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Nevertheless, a person’s criminal record absolutely has relevence when they get pulled in for subsequent crimes. Obviously you can’t convict on that alone, but it certainly is taken into account when considering the credibility of a suspect’s testimony.

I think a more apt analogy would be to imagine a guy who walks by where you sit every day at work and clips you on the back of the head with his elbow. Each time, very sincerely, he says “Sorry, I didn’t see you there.” How often does it happen before you decide that he’s doing it on purpose? Yes, each individual incident could actually be an accident, but does that mean you can never complain about it? And to top it off, you hear through the grapevine that he’s been saying nasty things about you. Still feel charitable enough to give the benefit of the doubt each time?