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	<title>Comments on: Oh /now/ it&#8217;s a problem</title>
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		<title>By: Mikki</title>
		<link>http://www.spinnwebe.com/wp/2007/06/01/oh-now-its-a-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17892</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but she was on The Daily Show a while back. You watch The Daily Show, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but she was on The Daily Show a while back. You watch The Daily Show, right?</p>
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		<title>By: spinn</title>
		<link>http://www.spinnwebe.com/wp/2007/06/01/oh-now-its-a-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17877</link>
		<dc:creator>spinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I really didn&#039;t know who Peggy Noonan is. She sounded familiar, but no, I didn&#039;t. As I&#039;ve said before, I&#039;ve only recently become interested in politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I really didn&#8217;t know who Peggy Noonan is. She sounded familiar, but no, I didn&#8217;t. As I&#8217;ve said before, I&#8217;ve only recently become interested in politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Torc</title>
		<link>http://www.spinnwebe.com/wp/2007/06/01/oh-now-its-a-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17759</link>
		<dc:creator>Torc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The president has taken to suggesting that opponents of his immigration bill are unpatriotic–they “don’t want to do what’s right for America.”&lt;/i&gt;

He&#039;s been saying that about anybody who opposes anything he does for years now.  He hasn&#039;t &#039;taken&#039; to doing anything.

&lt;i&gt;Why would they speak so insultingly, with such hostility, of opponents who are concerned citizens? And often, though not exclusively, concerned conservatives?&lt;/i&gt;

I never understand the assumption that criticism of any segment of a group is intended as criticism of the whole group.  &lt;i&gt;Some&lt;/i&gt; immigration opponents are bigots, &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; do want mass deportation.  Stating that does not mean you&#039;re implying that &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; opponents feel that way.  Noonan knows this and is ignoring it so she can make a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The president has taken to suggesting that opponents of his immigration bill are unpatriotic–they “don’t want to do what’s right for America.”</i></p>
<p>He&#8217;s been saying that about anybody who opposes anything he does for years now.  He hasn&#8217;t &#8216;taken&#8217; to doing anything.</p>
<p><i>Why would they speak so insultingly, with such hostility, of opponents who are concerned citizens? And often, though not exclusively, concerned conservatives?</i></p>
<p>I never understand the assumption that criticism of any segment of a group is intended as criticism of the whole group.  <i>Some</i> immigration opponents are bigots, <i>some</i> do want mass deportation.  Stating that does not mean you&#8217;re implying that <i>all</i> opponents feel that way.  Noonan knows this and is ignoring it so she can make a point.</p>
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		<title>By: MissAnnThrope</title>
		<link>http://www.spinnwebe.com/wp/2007/06/01/oh-now-its-a-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17747</link>
		<dc:creator>MissAnnThrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 17:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... I thought everyone knew who Noonan is.  She&#039;s a former speech writer for Reagan and Bush Sr.  She&#039;s been around forever.  While she annoys the hell out of me, she does have a point.  Bush was all for the wall against Mexico in 2004.  He campaigned on a platform of xenophobia.  Now, he&#039;s giving amnesty to those that he helped generate hate for.  All those mindless neo-cons who learned to hate the brown people and were told it was ok to hate these people during the past 6 and a half years are now feeing really betrayed.  A year ago, it was ok for them to hate Mexicans.  Now, they&#039;re being told they&#039;re commies and traitors if they hate Mexicans.  Sort of like how when Bush&#039;s numbers first hit the 30% mark Cheney told the nation, anyone who doesn&#039;t support Bush is a commie and a traitor and all but guilty of treason.

It really is Orwellian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; I thought everyone knew who Noonan is.  She&#8217;s a former speech writer for Reagan and Bush Sr.  She&#8217;s been around forever.  While she annoys the hell out of me, she does have a point.  Bush was all for the wall against Mexico in 2004.  He campaigned on a platform of xenophobia.  Now, he&#8217;s giving amnesty to those that he helped generate hate for.  All those mindless neo-cons who learned to hate the brown people and were told it was ok to hate these people during the past 6 and a half years are now feeing really betrayed.  A year ago, it was ok for them to hate Mexicans.  Now, they&#8217;re being told they&#8217;re commies and traitors if they hate Mexicans.  Sort of like how when Bush&#8217;s numbers first hit the 30% mark Cheney told the nation, anyone who doesn&#8217;t support Bush is a commie and a traitor and all but guilty of treason.</p>
<p>It really is Orwellian.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really don&#039;t know who Peggy Noonan is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really don&#8217;t know who Peggy Noonan is?</p>
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		<title>By: Blitzkrieg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blitzkrieg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that... that&#039;s the wrong link. Heh.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_crisis.html Try that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8230; that&#8217;s the wrong link. Heh.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_crisis.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_crisis.html</a> Try that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikki</title>
		<link>http://www.spinnwebe.com/wp/2007/06/01/oh-now-its-a-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17731</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I think this is the first time you&#039;ve been &lt;i&gt;angry&lt;/i&gt; in a post, kinda weird and scary and neat all at the same time. And it seems to have spurred a lot of writing for one blog entry. Mayhaps they should keep it up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I think this is the first time you&#8217;ve been <i>angry</i> in a post, kinda weird and scary and neat all at the same time. And it seems to have spurred a lot of writing for one blog entry. Mayhaps they should keep it up?</p>
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		<title>By: Blitzkrieg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blitzkrieg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 05:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.joshhosler.biz/NumberOneInHistory/SelectMonth.htm

This speech is still very valid today, and shows a lot of quandary&#039;s with the direction the Democratic party is going as well. Possibly one of the best presidential speeches in modern American history as well.</description>
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<p>This speech is still very valid today, and shows a lot of quandary&#8217;s with the direction the Democratic party is going as well. Possibly one of the best presidential speeches in modern American history as well.</p>
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