Comments on: Wonder what would happen

By: Pandemic

Pandemic — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:04:49 +0000

This is only indirectly related, but I thought you'd enjoy this video.

By: sharper

sharper — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:54:03 +0000

I get the initial question, and I still stand by my earlier statement. But if you want more of a global idea, try this:

It’s nice living in California, a state large enough to supply Obama’s hypothetical 15% all by itself. While polls aren’t legally reliable, I would expect our fair-minded Secretary of State, Debra Bowen, to refuse to certify the election, and she likely wouldn’t be alone in doing so, leaving plenty of time before the mid-December Electoral College vote to really make a mess of things.

By: K

Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:37:47 +0000

Although it’s true Big Brother has the capability to watch over all of us, truth is – can He afford to watch ALL of us? Quite frankly, no. We’re little fish in this murky pond. Typing that I would love to organize an underground, armed movement against D.C. with millions enlisted will not get me in trouble. They have neither the time nor interest, and the resources to really watch every citizen would be incredibly expensive.

With that said, Mr. Crowley, let’s get this insurrection on the road. Rumor has it that said organization is already taking place… and congress is already passing measures against ‘Resistance and Revolution’.

This election will be quite a catalyst in the upcoming (potential) civil war. Either McCain will win and the better part of the population will raise hell, or Obama will win and bring NO CHANGE WHATSOEVER. Either way, by 2012 this country will be so unsettled we just might end up killing one another.

By: J Crowley

J Crowley — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:20:32 +0000

Gawain: Eh, conservatives were going to try the same thing with Smedley Butler because they abhorred the idea of the New Deal. I think it would be more than excusable for one to do it when it was clear the government had become abjectly derelict and that people were committing such gross acts of voter fraud and getting away with it.

After all, that’s why the Founding Fathers gave us the Second Amendment.

By: MikeG

MikeG — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:07:20 +0000

Woo hoo?

By: Gawain

Gawain — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:38:53 +0000

Well, I hope you’ve already got it underway because they’re probably already on their way to your house after that comment.

By: J Crowley

J Crowley — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:57:38 +0000

For me? Assembling my own private military to overthrow the U.S. government.

By: Swifty

Swifty — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:27:19 +0000

I’m in no way a cynic. But if I were….

I’d say McCain would make sure he was front and center on this scandal and try to position himself as leading the investigation..and thus would begin the “leadership” media narrative.. If the vote riggers were truly smart, they’d make the investigation’s results be that McCain won by a now more palatable amount like 2% nationally.

In all likelihood, I don’t forsee vote-rigging as being a large problem in this election. From what I’ve been able to tell, Obama has amassed a very large group of volunteer lawyers to observe polls in swing states to prevent this very issue. I think Obama would fight back. Hard.

By: ewhac

ewhac — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:02:19 +0000

If the numbers said McCain won with 85% of the vote, then we would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the voting process is rigged. Approximately 20-25% of the population would think this was just fine — the same bunch of dullards that still claim George Bush has done a good job.

There would be a small exodus of intelligent people — the government may even choose to permit it under the rubric of, “America: Love it or leave it.” But I don’t think there would be a mass exodus, and certainly such a large migration would be nigh impossible what with the crashing world economy exacerbating already complex immigration laws.

The remaining populace would slowly but inexorably stop taking the government seriously, since everyone would know it was illegitimate and, short of armed revolt, there was no way to replace it. Not just Federal agencies, but State and local agencies as well — police, emergency services, social services — all would lose their legitimacy and respect, and society within the US would decay. Without the economy to build new infrastructure and services, and without the “social captial” of legitimacy and respect for established institutions, the US would revert to a form of tribalism, and you’d end up living in David Brin’s The Postman, only without Kevin Costner to fix things up…

By: K

Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:26:29 +0000

Gawain — I can’t speak for my fellow Americans, seeing that many of them are still in a state of media-propelled hypnosis… but I’ve been on my feet, ranting and raving since W’s first inauguration. Every item on your list has been gradually adding fuel to my fire, and this economical mess is starting to ignite more people than I thought it would.

I’ve been singing in a local rock band for the past few months (which is odd, because I’m a bassist, but anyway..) and this is the first group I’ve ever worked with that actually /encourages/ ‘political’ lyrics. Although I don’t name names, I blatantly state before a crowd that their government is lying to them, and it’s time we stop taking this shit. Matterafact, you can hear an example of me yelling my guts out about it here:

http://www.thereddesert.com/mp3/insidethemindlive.mp3

Listen/skip to about 5-6 minutes into the song, I go off on this rant that gets the greatest reactions out of people’s faces. Usually looks like they’re thinking “Wow, this guy is actually pissed.” It also sparks a lot of great conversation afterwards.

I’m not posting this for any sort of critique… but let it be known, even if I’m just one man with 3 compatriots – I’m out there trying to inform the public through the most effective medium I have. And I’m not the only one out there. If the government finds me and kills me, so be it. I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees.