Wow
Talk about brain damage causing selective perception:
John Hinderacker, arguably the most influential conservative blogger in the country …
Obama thinks he is a good talker, but he is often undisciplined when he speaks. He needs to understand that as President, his words will be scrutinized and will have impact whether he intends it or not. In this regard, President Bush is an excellent model; Obama should take a lesson from his example. Bush never gets sloppy when he is speaking publicly. He chooses his words with care and precision, which is why his style sometimes seems halting. In the eight years he has been President, it is remarkable how few gaffes or verbal blunders he has committed. If Obama doesn’t raise his standards, he will exceed Bush’s total before he is inaugurated.
At the feet of masters.
November 11th, 2008 01:13
Wha-HUH? Bush? “How few gaffes”?
Wow. Now I think I know how McCain felt in the 3rd debate when Obama hit him with “Zero!”.
November 11th, 2008 02:00
There is a part of me that will never stop laughing at this. Man, people like Hinderacker — people who are capable of thinking like this — make it astonishingly hard for me to not feel so much better than them. I mean, if they’re going to bitch about elitism, they could at least do a better job of inflating the fuck out of my ego by being such terrible people.
November 11th, 2008 02:01
Er, “of not inflating”, rather.
November 11th, 2008 08:16
Heck of a job, Hindy!
November 11th, 2008 10:54
Minor point…
‘most influential conservative blogger’ wha? where? I had never heard of this guy until this post. Can someone find another source that states this opinion of him?
But more to the point of the post…watching President-Elect Obama on the phone on a flight full of reporters, facing towards the back of the plane, discussing whatever…until one of his handlers reminds him that ‘they can hear you’… that is inexperience but he will adapt.
Actually I like this view of the president-elect (his answer about having talked with ALL presidents but then he realized that the ‘ALL’ might be construed by some people to include dead presidents)…
but it will be scrubbed out of him by his handlers as he goes farther into his term. Reminds me of work where no one seems to have ANY sense of humor especially as you deal with higher ups…like no one wants to be taken less seriously…as if we actually do take any of them seriously in the first place.
November 11th, 2008 12:21
Christ, Mike. Spinn’s not making the claim that Hinderaker is The One Most High; that came from the original TPM post.
As for that claim’s veracity, use the Google for one fucking minute before spouting off. Powerline blog, of which Hinderaker is a founder, was Time’s 2004 Blog of the Year and was listed one of the five best media outlets for Republican candidates to patronize (alongside Instapundit, Michelle Malkin, Captain’s Quarters, and Hugh Hewitt) in a 2007 National Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee guideline document. Granted, this doesn’t secure him a position as the most influential conservative blogger, but that’s an argument that could be made.
November 11th, 2008 14:39
Wow, do people really have their ears full of shit or what? Barack is one of the most articulate and well-spoken politicians I’ve ever seen. On top of that, Bush has absolutely NO grace whatsoever when he opens his meat flaps. He’s an awful speaker — says words he can’t pronounce, let alone even knows what they mean. Eloquence is not one of George’s virtues at all… this Hindy guy’s a full-on moron. Try conserving brain cells first, John.
Oh, and Mike, I have been avoiding flaming you in any way and will continue to do so… however, sharper makes a good point. Trust in the power of Google, or AltaVista, or Yahoo, or the 7,369 other search engines available at your fingertips. I’ve never heard of this Hinderacker toolbag before either, but I would definitely search a little background on him before staking a claim like that. Just a thought, my good man.
November 11th, 2008 15:00
sharper and K, slow down, breathe…that was my point…I had to go research this guy too on the information superhighway via my Intel 86 processor based computing device…found powerline, his wikipedia info, etc…not impressed.
So for TPM to note that opinion I was just looking for a 2nd source…and never did I imply that spinn declared this…and to find a 2004 and 2007 dated document is not someone who I would classify as the ‘most influential conservative blogger in the country’…there are many others that I read in townhall or lucianne that I would say are more influential… Just saying.
Bein’ sa conservitiv I has so few brains cell it hard too thunk.
Peace.
November 11th, 2008 22:09
sigh, yeah, sharper jumped when he shouldn’t have. I considered saying something, but…sigh. Getting to the point I’m getting less interested in seeing comments in my own blog.
Mike: consider that this happened because people are generally expecting the worse of you. I imagine you probably see this as a compliment.
November 12th, 2008 09:29
When Time named bloggers in their “Person of the Year” article in 2004, look who they featured:
http://www.time.com/time/subscriber/personoftheyear/2004/poyblogger.html
(Oo, I’m anonymous! I’m anonymous! Booga-booga-booga! This page must not say what it plainly says because I posted anonymously! Oo!)
November 12th, 2008 09:55
Already covered in sharper’s response, you anonymous twit.
November 12th, 2008 14:37
Ugh, I am getting involved in the comments on that post. Someone come here and break my fingers.
November 12th, 2008 15:06
(Oo, I bother Gawain! I bet that’s Gawain’s real name! Oo!)
November 12th, 2008 16:11
Real Name: Neil Davidson. Enjoy it for whatever good it does you. Your turn, Anonymous.
Did you have any point at all to make, or did you just come here to demonstrate your immaturity, lack of reading skills, and cowardice?
Say, you didn’t by any chance find your way here from Hinderacker’s blog, after Googling spinn’s name, did you? No, I’m sure it’s coincidence.
Spinn… after browsing the comments over there, I can only say GET OUT!!! RUN!! THE CALLS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!
November 13th, 2008 02:24
spinn, why do you do that to yourself? Do you crave stress? Enjoy beating your head against walls?
Honestly, I fail to see the logic in putting yourself into such a situation.
November 13th, 2008 05:32
a) If I recall correctly, TIME is the same magazine that, in the 1980s during the Republican takeover of Congress, had an illustration of a stampeding elephant, and when Democrats retook control a few years ago, had an illustration that was somewhat less triumphant. So, you’ll have to forgive me if I have doubts about their judgment of “person of the year”.
b) Who gives a goat’s cunt about who the editors of some magazine — any magazine — think are amazing people, especially considering the state the Fourth Estate has been in over the last eight years? HOO BOO he must REALLY be a STAND-UP FELLER if TIME MAGAZINE says so, and that TOTALLY COUNTERACTS his VERY OBVIOUS LUNACY demonstrated in his QUOTE ABOUT BUSH’S REMARKABLE ELOQUENCE
November 13th, 2008 11:44
Sorry, spinn. I don’t know what came over me. I just… I don’t know. Something triggered, and I think I just sort of blacked out there for a second. And then I was all strapped to a gurney out of nowhere, and there was that viscous salival foam all down the front of my shirt, and for some reason I barely caught the Wikipedia page of some right-wing bloviant out of the corner of my eye, and then I don’t remember what happened.
It won’t happen again. I’ve added Wikipedia and Limbaugh to the company web filter. Should be good.
November 13th, 2008 13:44
heheh.
Mikki: I tend to labor under the illusion that anyone can be persuaded with enough patient application of logic. And I am stubborn. On the former, over many years I’m starting to understand that’s not true. On the latter, I don’t really ever see that changing much.
November 13th, 2008 16:07
Don’t go changing, Captain. The day you become a flip-floppin’ quitter is the day I stop visiting. I admire your tenacity and penchant for logic, it’s a big reason I continue to come back. I started visiting in 1996 for captioning reasons (as K-Man, I’m in Sedgwick’s DFC stats beeyatch!) and I still find myself punching in http://www.spinnwebe.com at least once a day.
But I do miss IRCing with you guys. Does anyone still hang out at #spinnwebe these days?
November 17th, 2008 15:58
Anonymous: So are we supposed to give a shit that a magazine (with questionable impartiality, but that’s beside the point) thinks this blogger’s a Really Neat Guy?
Hoo boo, he called George W. Bush articulate which means he’s quite obviously either insane or deaf or has just never actually paid attention to anything over the last eight years, but Time listed him as a “Person of the Year” so he must be right and a shining beacon of rationality and intelligence for us all to look to for guiding our thoughts.
I mean, what is the point you’re trying to make, here?
November 17th, 2008 16:36
Crowley: shut up. You misunderstood his part in the conversation.
Honestly, you people are embarrassing me. Please make some sort of comprehension pass before you start mouthing off at someone. Good Lord, I spend enough time railing against that on liberal blogs I read, I don’t need it here too.
November 18th, 2008 02:07
The point of Anonymous’s comment was rather ambiguous (“this guy was Time’s person of the year!” could have been a response to anything that preceded it, including your post, and his/her getting pissy at Gawain made my personal interpretation lean the way it did), and if you didn’t yourself notice that it could easily be read as having more than one potential point, then you have a far lower reading comprehension than any of the people you’re bitching about.
Anyway, thanks for the overreacting snippery — I was likely overdue for someone biting my goddamned head off over something incredibly insignificant.
Be seeing you!
November 18th, 2008 02:41
Whoo hoo drama much? Yah, I shouldn’t have deservedly bitten your head off for your pointlessly biting someone’s head off, I feel terrible about the whole situation.
November 18th, 2008 05:22
I was asking him what his point was — or at least, clarification on what I thought his point was, based on the context in which his comment appeared. I didn’t tell him to shut up and effectively call him a semi-literate embarrassment to discussion.
To clarify: As he wasn’t specifically addressing any of the commenters prior to that, I’d assumed — apparently mistakenly — that he was responding to the original post. I really don’t think I flew wildly into some bizarre fantasy land of unrelated tangents or anything with that interpretation.
Anyway, considering your pissy, somewhat misinterpreting overreaction to my pissy, somewhat misinterpreting overreaction to his ambiguously-directed comment, I’d recommend we both go replace some of the panes on our respective glass houses and move along.
November 18th, 2008 08:16
Hey spinn and J C… why so much anger? hatred? meanyness? I thought the election was over? Pres-Elect Obama will be our president soon! Yeah! Woo hoo! Be happy!
November 18th, 2008 09:27
If you think you calmly asked him to clarify a point of discussion, then you are mistaken. He’d previously already been unreasonably snapped at for the same point for which you were unreasonably snapping at him. Which was later followed by a “oh ho, so I know where you’re really from” comment, and all of this was following a Dissenter As Enemy pattern I’ve seen way too many times to be happy about it on my own blog.
If you want to make it a “say, let’s all agree we screwed up” thing, fine. But you’re wrong.
November 18th, 2008 10:28
I’ll cop to the comment about where Anonymous probably came from; there was a voice telling me to leave that part out and I ignored it, which is usually a mistake. But I don’t think I was particularly out of line anywhere else.
I could defend the rest, but fuck it; I’m tired of explaining myself to people, and I think you’ll agree this is becoming a drag of a conversation. Anyway, all you ever have to say is “Gawain, stop posting here”, and unlike MikeG, I’ll comply. It’s your playground, and I don’t go where I’m not wanted.
November 18th, 2008 19:10
I’m sorry. Can’t we all just get along?